The foreign ministry is officially responsible of the POW Case in Egypt

On the 5th of March 2008, the Administrative court in Cairo issued a historical ruling oblighing the Egyptian foreign ministry to investigate the allegations that the Israeli Defense Forces “IDF” had killed Egyptian POWs in 1956 and 1967.

egyptianow-apThe court ordered the Egyptian foreign ministry to prepare a list with the names and numbers of the POWs killed by the IDF.The importance of that rule is that it is an official obligation on the Foreign

The importance of that rule is that it is an official obligation on the Foreign ministry.

The ministry should open an immediate investigation in this important case.This court order comes as the end of a very long lawsuit filed against the Egyptian government by the families of the POWs and ex-POWs

The lawyer who filed the Suit is Wahid El-Oksori , the head of Egyptian Arab socialist Party and a veteran officer.

This is very important court order, it does not recognize the crimes but it orders the Foreign ministry to investigate the allegations,it opens the door officially

Still, I doubt that the Foreign ministry will obey the court’s order and it will not be the first time nor the first ministry or governmental authority that will ignore a court’s order. By the way about the list with names and numbers of the POWs, they can be easily done with the records of the reported missing officers and Soldiers from 1956 and 1967 from the Egyptian army archives. 

Were they killed in 1949 or in 1906 ??

The Controversy about the mass grave in found in Eilat is not finished yet despite there is no more news about it in the media. The Controversy now is not about whether the remains in the mass grave were for Egyptian or Jordanian Battalion in 1949 , the nationality is not our issue here this time , the historians in debate agree that these remains were for Egyptian battalion yet they disagree to by whom or when that Egyptian Battalion was killed . Yes the general idea or assumption based on the fact there is not serious investigation in the site itself that that Egyptian battalion was killed in year 1949 by the Israeli forces still there is another probability that this Egyptian Battalion was killed in 1906 by the Turkish Othman forces.

It is all related to Um Rashrash village and its official history. Officially Egypt lost this village to Palestine according to order issued by the Othman Empire. Egypt according to history did not give up the village without a fight especially that the Othman Empire sent a battalion in order to control the village on the sea.

Late Egyptian historian Yonan Labib Razek who died last week said from couple of weeks ago that he believed they could be the Egyptian Battalion in 1906 who were killed by the Othman Empire Battalion.

Egyptian Historian Amr El-Nasharti also agree on this assumption despite that he did not deny the possibility that they could be killed in year 1949 by the Israeli forces

I will check by myself in the history books about the 1906 incident. Already for me whether they were killed in 1906 or 1949 ,whether they were killed by the Othman Empire Soldiers or by the the IDF soldiers as it is a war crime in either ways

Were they Egyptians or Jordanians ??

Do you remember the mass grave for Muslims in Eilat last month ?? Already  the Defense and National security committee in the Egyptian assembly should have discussed it yesterday ,unfortunately there were no news regarding this discussion as yesterday the El-Malt’s CAO report was the main topic in the media for the last two days and seriously I have to say it was much important and it is expected to take all the attention whether from the media or the members of Parliament.

On the other hand there is a great historical debate about the mass grave and its location , also it is expected thing , Um Rashrash is already a center of debate of whether it is an Egyptian land or not .

The historical debate started when 1948 veteran , free officers movement member and military historian General Gamal Hamad said to Gamal Hamad Masrawy website that those remains are not for Egyptian officers and soldiers and there was no Egyptian Battalion in the Um Rashrash village in year 1949 and that they were for Jordanian battalion

We did not fight the Israelis in any battle in the Um Rashrash region. These remains could be for Jordanian officers and soldiers as this region was following the Jordan

Of course the old veteran and famous military historian had contradicts totally with what the Front for restoring Um Rashrash is saying , especially the front includes many historians and many military personalities like General Saad El-Din Shazaaly.

Still it is very easy to know to which army those people used to belong to , through photos of their military uniforms or the remains of their uniforms to be accurate , also through the photos and the Holy Quran found in the site, we can know in which country it was printed and thus it will be an evidence for us.

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Strangely there is no one from Jordan claimed that these were remains for Jordanian Battalion till now.

Anyhow whether they are Jordanians or Egyptians ,the war crime is still there ,  the evidence is still there.

More updates about the Mass grave in Eilat

First I did not receive yet from the Al-Aqsa foundation , hopefully they will reply on my requests.

Second the Al-Jazeera made a report about it

Third here are the new information and new photos

It is believed according to Al-Jazeera that this mass grave goes back to 1948 war between the Arabic armies and the Israeli Army. If this is true then we will have war crimes against the Arab armies older than 1956 committed by the IDF because according to the Al-Aqsa foundation which is the only Arabic Islamic party investigated the mass grave ,the position of the bodies and their remains go with the position of people who were executed ,someone must have executed them and according to the findings they were Muslims , they had not been shot by other Muslim Arabs for sure in 1948 as all the Arab armies were together not against each other

If these remains are for Arab soldiers killed in 1948 , they can be Egyptians , yes it will not change anything except the date

even in 1948 who was fighting in this area ?? some say they could be Jordanians and it is high probability still the location and how close it is from the Egyptian borders make me believe they will turn to be Egyptians

Still it is hard to determine this with the lack of historical accurate reports about the 1948 war , I feel sad that My grand father is not here as he was a military correspondent in 1948 , he could have helped me so much

Here are the photos

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More bones

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The Holy Quran , The Korsy Ayat , it is amazing how it is still there after all these decades whether it goes back to 1948 or 1967

A March For Those Who Died For Us

Insh Allah tomorrow the 6th of October 2007 some Egyptian People will organize a march in the streets of Cairo from 7:30 PM to 9:30 PM paying respect for those who died for us whether in 1967 from men who died in combat or as POWs or in 1973

It is event that had been organized for months now in the Facebook by a group of young people , the description of that event says the following:

On October 6th 2007, we will march through the streets of Cairo to pay respect to our POW s, martyrs and lost ones in the act of war, those who were sadly forgotten.

The time and place information of the event are as follows if you live in Cairo and interested whether to see or to be more active and walk for two hours  :

Time = 7.30 PM to 9.30 PM Cairo Local time

Place =AL Nasr St to Autostrad (El Manasa)

Meeting point= In front of the A-Ahly Club At Al-Nasr city

I will say the truth and I wish this works fine tomorrow because I know the restrictions of security nowadays , still it brings hope that some people really care to think in such a way

Important Updates: The complete script of Shaked in English

At last I did it and I translated the Rush Shaked Documentary scriptmenu_17 from Arabic to English so all the people will understand what was said in the controversial Israeli documentary. I translated from the origin Arabic script I found in my Cruel World blog.It is very important because according to it that is the Second Israeli confession of committing crimes against the Egyptian POWs in 1967 after the veterans confessions of committing war crimes in 1956 against our POWs from Militaries and civilians. I am sorry if there were mistakes in the Hebrew names but you must know that all that delay was to check from the names and to write it correctly ,I tried as possible to check from the names several times and some of them from those who appeared in the documentary turned to be from the important officers in the IDF as you will know The documentary and what was said in it are the solid proof against the claims of the director of the same director of the documentary who lied and said that the Egyptians were not mentioned in the documentary !! Well ha can say anything especially when the documentary was never shown again , also it is a solid proof against the claims of the Shaked battalion veterans who denied that they had killed any Egyptian pows during 1967 You can find the script in English here please spread the news Again if you find any mistakes in the Hebrew names please tell me and I will correct them

Minister Shahab : Egypt did not close the 1967 POWs file

Egyptian Minister for the parliament affairs and NDP member Mofid Shahab assured in his meeting with youth in Alexandria that Egypt did not close the file and that Egypt demanded both Israel and the UN which represents the international community to investigate the matter !! With a request to the UN that it would form an inquiry committee for the case !!

And that Egypt waits the results of these investigations to know the truth about what really happened to her soldiers and to punish those who did those crimes if they are proven to take place !!

They are proven to take place !! I am sorry but this is an accusation to the POW of 1956and the veteran 1967 of being liars then !!

I don’t know how on earth we would trust Israel in its investigation , they will not criminalize their army legends like Biro !!

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10 PM Special episode with the Egyptian POWs

At last I was able to upload the fantastic episode of popular TV show on Dream TV2 “10 PM” with the Egyptian POWs to Veoh.com

This episode is very important ,the guests were former Egyptian POWs in 1967 and citizens from the Al-Arish city

It is in Arabic language for now

These clips were added to the the video section which I made some changes for it ,so it won’t be over crowded , the 10 PM Special Episode with the Egyptian POWs is now in the Dream TV section in the video section , I also made a special section for the “Rush Shaked” documentary for its importance

Hatshepsut and the Egyptian POWs

As you may have heard Queen Hatshepsut mummy was identified last month in Cairo by the Egyptian Egyptologists and doctors who used the DNA technique.

Now this interesting and great discovery can be helpful in our case ,the case of the Egyptian POWs

The idea was said in popular TV show on the National TV “Talk of the town” ,when one of the viewers send a suggestion that we can use the DNA technique to identify the remainings of the POW in the desert of Sinai in places like in Al-Arish

The TV show hosted a medical doctor who confirmed that it can be used to identify the remaining bones of the POWs so easily and already was used in several similar cases in the world

Now this is an excellent idea that will relief thousands of the families in Egypt , till now mothers don’t know where their sons are or what happened to them , yes they know for sure they were dead after decades of waiting and hoping

I don’t understand why the Egyptian government does not do such a thing , at least it will know then who those anonymous men that were buried across Sinai

May be the government does not want to do so because this will open a door for inquires may be and they are not ready to just to face this open door !!

I think that this is what Queen Hatshepsut would have done if she had been in the place of the Egyptian government

Updates and more of updates

انا اسفة جدا لعدم تمكنى من تحديث الموقع فى الايام الاخيرة و لكن الان اعود مع التحديثات الهامة جدا جدا

اولا كل الشكر لصديق العزبز O2A لمساعدته  الكبير حيث كان كريما جدا ان يعطنى الاذن لتحميل Ùˆ استخدام ما سجله من حلقة البرنامج الناجح العاشرة مساء الخاصة بالفليم الوثائقى “عدى النهار”  الذى يدور احداثه حول نكسة حرب الايام الستة , الحمد الله قام الصديق العزيز بتسجيل الاجزاء المتعلق بالاسرى Ùˆ هى مهمة للغاية Ùˆ منها شهادة العقيد اسامة الصادق المهمة Ùˆ شهادات اسرى فى معتقل عتليت Ùˆ لقد قامت باضافة الاجزاء الى جزء الافلام

ثانيا التحديث الثانى و هو ليس بالمهم كالاول هو انى اضافت ثلاث صور الى جزء الصور منهم صورتان من مجموعتى الخاصة من كتاب كان يملكه جدى رحمه الله لم يمكن متوفرا فى مصر

Sorry for the lack of updates but please pardon me because I am not feeling well these days but here I am , back with very ,very important updates

First of all thanks to my dear Friend O2A I was able to get my hands on the historical important documentary produced by Egyptian Dream TV channel “The Day has passed” , the important parts in the documentary about the six days war regarding the POWs including the very important testimony of Osama El-Sadak the 67 and 73 wars veteran and other former pows ,these clips were added to the Films section with the permission of O2A

I can’t say how much I am happy to find these clips ,unfortunately they are in Arabic but I promise you that I will translate the summary of what was said in them , because it was very important

Another update but not as big as the previous one I added three photos to the photos section two of them is from my own private Collection from a book my late grand father owned from 1967 that wasn’t available in Egypt

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